anemotionallyunstablecreature:
interesting how the answers change as the men get younger
and they call OUR generation lost
I was hating this until the end
I’m gonna reblog again cause this shit is important. my mom is a rape victim and she’s been married twice and she’s the strongest woman I know. rape shouldn’t be a deal breaker, that’s ridiculous.
Tag: Rape
Well done, you took down a shitty little blog that has no absolutely no relevance outside of tumblr.
Pick your battles, I suppose…
I’ve seen many responses to the “free speech” argument for “Ask Princess Molestia” to the tune of, “It trivializes rape and harms rape victims.” I get that. It’s offensive and harmful.
However, that has no bearing on free speech. Free speech protects even offensive speech, as long as it does not directly incite violence. Free speech means people have the right to be rude, bigoted, racist, sexist, and even rape-apologetic.
The next question is: Should they be? Of course not! But this is a different matter altogether.
To illustrate this distinction, take a look at the Westboro Baptist Church. You might have heard of it. It’s a church in Kansas, United States that regularly protests against gay people with the slogan “God hates fags” and even goes so far as to say that terrorist attacks on the United States (including 9/11!) are God’s punishment for tolerating homosexuals.
It’s clear that WBC’s speech is hateful and bigoted. It has the potential to harm victims of anti-LGBT violence. But as much as I disagree with WBC and its activities, I would not try to stop them since they are protected by free speech.
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” —S.G. Tallentyre, The Friends of Voltaire, illustrating Voltaire’s view on free speech
Sexual exploitation is no joke, I get that. Having volunteered at a rape crisis center, I’ve heard heartbreaking stories and seen lives devastated by rape and sexual assault.
I applaud ANYONE concerned about these issues and willing to help with time and money. BUT trying to take down a tumblr about dirty jokes and ponies doesn’t amount to fuck-all. And sending someone money for a tee-shirt “supporting” taking down a tumblr about dirty jokes and ponies means even less than fuck-all.
If you want to lend assistance to something that matters, visit the websites of these 4-star rated charity organizations dealing with matters of rape, sexual exploitation, and women’s justice. Make a donation, volunteer your time, do something that MATTERS. Don’t be a tumblr warrior, be an actual hero and make a difference.
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RAINN Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network
The nation’s largest anti-sexual assault organization
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Helping prevent child abduction and sexual exploitation
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HeartLinda: Discussion: Down with Molestia (Accusations)
Here’s how I think DM should ideally treat supporters of “Ask Princess Molestia”:
“You should stop supporting APM because it normalizes rape.”
Instead, what I see is this:
“If you support APM, you support rape culture.”
The difference between the two is that the first allows people who…
If you support APM, you support rape culture because it normalizes rape. These aren’t unrelated.
It also encourages rapists by trivializing rape.
http://rajsivaraman.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/a-scientific-case-against-rape-jokes/
(I will never not take the chance to link this)
This is the sort of attitude I think DM should try to avoid. You’re not giving people an opportunity to consider why “Ask Princess Molestia” supports rape culture, because people might not realize it at first.
(For my non-brony followers, there’s a movement in the fandom called “Down with Molestia” that is speaking out against a fan-meme that is Princess Celestia turned into a rapist named Princess Molestia, and a certain askprincessmolestia.tumblr.com blog that is riddled with rape jokes and rape culture).
Down with Molestia is not about getting some blog taken down. It’s about speaking out about rape culture. The very fact that some people are saying “it’s not a big deal!” is an indicator that rape culture has been so deeply ingrained in you cretins that you don’t see what’s obviously wrong with it.
The Molestia blog pokes fun at molestation and rapes and makes the victims the butt of the joke. Oh. the Princess just shoved her horn up that unsuspecting pony’s vagina. ISN’T THAT JUST SO FUNNY? ISN’T THE PRINCESS SUCH A FUNNY, LIKABLE SCAMP? HAHAHA.
No.
“Why are you getting so angry about a blog? Why don’t you go after someone else or go after bigger problems like starving children in Africa?"
Again. This movement isn’t even directly about the blog for most people. The blog is a piece of rape culture, and the DWM movement is addressing rape culture as a whole. And why are YOU getting all mad at us for speaking up and not going and helping starving kids in Africa?Also, the blog is drawn by a man who not only constantly makes rape jokes and molestation jokes but makes an offensive parody of the movement that began over his own blog. When he receives criticism, he laughs in our faces. That should be enough to tell you what a vile person he is.
I get this.
Let’s all just take a moment & realize that if PinkiePony was a male victim of rape who started up the “Down With Molestia” campaign, nobody would’ve done anything to stop her & probably have triple the support.
…but since she’s a female she instead gets multiple death threats, people harshly impersonating her, has numerous false rumors spread around, & a shocking amount of people mocking her just for sticking up for something she believed that needed to be said…
Think about it before you try to tell me that I’m wrong.
Something to think about. I personally have not given PinkiePony any of this hate, though.
I know I’ll lose followers, I know I’ll get hate mail, but I’m tired of my voice being silenced. I want to be heard. This is not a joke. Sexual abuse and molestation is not a joke. I’m a victim myself, and to see people taking it so lightly, is sickening. Rape is not a joke. Rape is not sexy. Stop glorifying these acts. I recently babysat a child who entered my room, and upon seeing my massive My Little Pony collection, she ran to my Friendship is Magic shelf and started naming them, and once she got to Celestia, she told me she rapes people. She simply googled images of Celestia, and that little girl now knows what rape is. That was the last straw. I haven’t told many of you, but I had a terrible rape experience and My Little Pony is my passion. This needs to end.
I want to make a difference. Im willing to fight. Down with Molestia! We need to take a stand. Who’s with me?
So this is the seminal post for “Down with Molestia.” (Or not; correct me if I’m wrong.)
Let me start off by saying this: I can see where you’re coming from with this. That story is quite shocking, but it shows more the inability of cloppers and others interested in more “mature” themes to keep their material discreet and marked. But as rape is a very serious issue, and seeing as you yourself are a victim of sexual abuse, I can see why you’re taking it in this direction.
I am sorry that you and your supporters are getting hate (not simple criticism) for this. However, I think your campaign is a bit extreme, and somewhat exaggerates the influence of APM. It is one blog, and I have to agree with hazama-itsuru (reblogged by you) that parents should be more careful when their children are online. I believe this is what John Joseco meant with #354, that supporting APM is not supporting or trivializing rape. (Some have interpreted this as rape apology, which I think is a misconstruation.) Should he have defended himself more maturely? Probably. Do I agree with him on this? Maybe, but I’m not too sure yet.
That’s all I have to say for now. I’ll probably follow up with this soon. I hope people can continue to discuss things civilly despite the controversial issues presented.
The prime points that I’m getting out of this Down With Molestia campaign are that it fetishizes and/or makes light of rape and rape survivors, and that children might find it.
I’m not sure where rape comes into the equation, because it has never been so much as even been hinted at. Rape is not a joke and Molestia smartly steers clear of that. Is she lewd? Most certainly! I can think of a few posts where a real person would have been slapped with sexual harassment. To stretch that into rape, however, is intentionally demonizing the blog for a characteristic it does not possess.
Children might find it? Where are their parents to monitor their activities? This “think of the children” mentality that’s been growing for the last couple of decades has done nothing but attempt to create irrational censoring. It is not the job of content creators to keep children away from their material. They provide parents with the tools necessary to do so, such as ratings and tags.
Wouldn’t it be silly if people attacked a film producer because a bunch of kids snuck into an R-rated movie at the theater? Film and television are rated and it is the job of the parent to keep their child from viewing. Similarly, online content is (ideally) tagged. Yes, some creators are irresponsible in this regard, which only serves to further underline the point that parents must be aware of what their children are doing. Video games or television or lewd pony blogs or whatever the next convenient excuse is are not to blame — the parent’s lack of involvement in their child’s life is.
Won’t someone think of the children, they cry out, as they plop their child in front of the computer to browse the web unsupervised.
Thank you.
It is 2013 August 17 22:30 UTC approximately. I first heard about this controversy literally minutes before. (Question: Is this controversy actually new? Or did it just explode with #354? That post seems to be a response to existing controversy. EDIT: This controversy was started by a post by pinkiepony on 11 August.) I’m familar with Ask Princess Molestia, but I don’t follow it or visit it regularly.
Why am I even doing this, then? Answer: Not only do I want to repost (and comment) on things that “attract my attention” (to put it lightly) (and APM isn’t very cloppable, anyway), I also want to talk about sexuality. The DM campaign brings up very serious issues such as rape and rape apology.
I’m not going to explain what’s going on here, since I myself don’t know fully. I will give my initial views on this, though.
- Does APM trivialize rape? Maybe. But I seriously doubt that’s the intention. But honestly, I have to say that I have no idea why John Joseco created this concept.
- Is APM rape-apologetic? Of course not (unless I’m missing something). APM does not promulgate the idea that rape is the victim’s fault. (Or does it? I haven’t read too much of the blog.)