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It seems that Hasbro was involved in taking down “Ask Princess Molestia.” This isn’t certainly the first time Hasbro has given the C&D to pony fan work, but Pinkiepony’s e-mail that is credited for initiating the C&D is worth examining:

Minor note: The destination e-mail address reads “HasbroBrandPR,” which is assumed to be HasbroBrandPR@hasbro.com based on Hasbro’s contact webpage. This address is supposed to be for the press (“Only inquires from press will be returned.”), which probably explains why Pinkiepony never got a response. As for the proper contact address, I think “Corporate Social Responsibility” would’ve been the best, but I’m not sure.

Pinkiepony states in the first paragraph that “one very popular one [fan work] has become so popular that children find it when searching for your products.” This echoes her original reasoning for starting this movement (reblogged by me). But I conducted a similar experiment to the one I conducted concerning My Little Pony Rule 34 in general: I searched “Princess Celestia” on Google with SafeSearch. I couldn’t find any Molestia. I’m really starting to wonder exactly how the girl she talked about found this content.

She also refers to another blog, “The Fall of Equestria,” which seems to be set in some alternate (post-apocalyptic?) universe with various mares as sex slaves. That blog is still up as of the writing of this post, even though it’s much worse than “Ask Princess Molestia” in my opinion. Did Hasbro not get around to that, or what?

So I just found out that Ask Princess Molestia was taken down.

I never really liked the blog. I didn’t think the jokes were funny. Plus, I’m not into video games, so Gamer Luna wasn’t for me, either.

But when Down with Molestia came up, I thought it was well-intentioned but too extreme. Right now I’m inclined to draw a comparison between John Joseco and Phil Robertson of the television show “Duck Dynasty.” If you haven’t heard, Robertson was suspended (for a short while) from the show for making comments about how homosexuality was sinful.

Now, I (along with many others) believe his comments were hateful and misinformed. But I didn’t feel that he should have been suspended for his comments. He did exercise his right to free speech, and he didn’t directly incite any illegal action. The same goes for John Joseco. His sort of humor in “Ask Princess Molestia” is objectionable to many people (to me? I haven’t seen much of the actual blog, so I don’t know), but it is an exercise of free speech, and it doesn’t directly incite illegal action.

Certainly people have the right to heavily criticize both Robertson and Joseco for their expressions, and they can demand apologies or the like. Concerning Joseco, it is acceptable to ask (read: demand) that he take down the blog. But he initially just brushed off the whole movement. The next step is not to get the blog removed by force. (To me it’s not clear if that’s what Down with Molestia is trying to do.)

pinkiepony:

bronydramarecorded:

mlpdaily:

As of 3:00 EST, the infamous MLP Fan-Tumblr, […] "Ask Princess Molestia" is gone. The url http://askprincessmolestia.tumblr.com/ returns a notification, that there is nothing to find. 

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“Ask Princess Molestia” has recently been the target of a campaign known as “Down With Molestia”, spearheaded [pinkiepony] who notoriously [has been fighting rape cluture and JJ’s blog], as she has stated many times in her postings.

POSSIBLE LEAKED JJ CHAT CONFIRMS HASBRO IS RESPONSIBLE

Assuming the following transcript is true, there may be larger and even more nefarious forces at work beyond [DWM]. […]

[I will keep this post updated] (via HORSE-NEWS)

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It is pretty clear at this point that JJ has shut it down for good and it was due in part to Hasbro sending a C&D. (Here is another link supporting this conclusion). 

I contacted Hasbro on Jan 9, I had enough.

It is very possible Hasbro listened and took action. If so, thank you Hasbro. They didn’t reply to me. 

Original post from pinkiepony on her message to Hasbro.

mlpdaily:

As of January 17th, 3:00pm EST, the infamous MLP Fan-Tumblr, “Ask Princess Molestia” is gone off the internet. The URL for the blog returns a notification that there is nothing to find. The blog’s URL cannot be taken, indicating that the blog has been suspended. 

Art by frogbians

“Ask Princess Molestia” has recently been the target of a campaign known as “Down With Molestia”, spearheaded pinkiepony who notoriously has been fighting rape culture and JJ’s blog as she has stated many times in her postings.

JJ CHAT CONFIRMS HASBRO IS RESPONSIBLE

Assuming the following transcript is true, it seems Hasbro was involved with the take down of the blog, JJ saying “I got to big” and it was suspended by “tumblr becasue of hasbro”

bronydramarecorded wrote:

It is pretty clear at this point that JJ has shut it down for good and it was due in part to Hasbro sending a C&D. (Here is another link supporting this conclusion). 

but in the end, it was pinkiepony’s doing. She posted this email on her bog to prove that her efforts though e-mail finally proved effective.

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I’m assuming you’re referring to #8 in a recent Applejack post. Her bridle is tied to a post.

notaclopbanana:

One of the only inconveniences to having your blog deleted is losing helpful links for when shit hits the fan.

(Link) I keep trying to tell you all; what more can I say? (I apologize if that was not the reason you got banned again.) (Also, I barely knew where you resurfaced until you reblogged my discussion on anthro clop. XD)

ponyclopstash:

Adding in my 2 cents to this, I believe it’s because those who hate anthro has been probably exposed to crappy art. Mind you anthro art is saturated and it can be rather difficult to find the good from the bad unless you have a general sense of which artists you should follow. It could also be that for the first time someone who looks up anthro ponies has only been exposed to extreme kinks. The type of kinks that they don’t like and sadly believe that that’s what anthro is all about. That perhaps they are disgusted at the mere sight of the pony’s head attached to a body with human proportions is another valid reason. It is not a bad thing that anthro exists within MLP. I consider that a good thing. The “hate” on anthro is something I can honestly care less when it isn’t even a big deal to begin with (at least on my end).

While I vastly prefer the pony form of clop, anthro is actually a type of pony art that has grown on me in response to the exposure I get on a daily basis. Though when I really think about it (keeping in mind that I only have a vague sense of what anthro is based upon the art I stumbled upon), anthro to me is a change of body type that either can sometimes be really sexy or a visual representation of how the artist views the pony as in “anthro form”

I like anthro because of colorful butts and boobies ok?

Thanks for your response. Adding to the “uncanny valley” idea, a thing that turns me off about some anthro clop is lack of breasts. Sometimes a female anthropomorphic pony isn’t given breasts. This can be done well, but it’s more difficult than with breasts, and a lot of times it seems even loli-like. (I mentioned this in the previous discussion.)

Too-easy plug: If you’re looking for an idea of anthro clop you can check out #anthro on my blog. I don’t post lots of kinks (though futanari is probably the one that will turn the most people off).

A few months ago there was a discussion concerning Rule 34 of “Friendship is Magic” with anthropomorphic characters, but I’m going to try to reopen it since it didn’t really take off after one other user came in.

In short, it seems that many people like ponies in their original quadrupedal form (“feral” form, as I call it) and humanized characters, but not anthropomorphs. A few explanations for this were given.

You can follow the link above to see what was already said, but I’m curious: Do a lot of people hate anthro clop (or anthro ponies, sexual or not)? Do you like them? Why, or, more importantly, why not?

solarhedonist:

heartlinda:

Well, I’m not “literally” standing up because I was sitting when I wrote that post (and am sitting now as I answer this). But I am literally supporting them. (I’m one of them!)

Just because you focused on the point of children finding this content (which is justified, I suppose), I decided to do an experiment: I went to image search on Google, turned on SafeSearch, and just put in the names of the main six characters: Twilight Sparkle, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Applejack, and Fluttershy. The most sexually suggestive images I could find in the first few pages were Twilight Sparkle in bed and a back-nude humanized Fluttershy, which aren’t explicit. Down the list are some “wet-mane” and “bedroom-eye” ponies. You can try this for yourself to draw your own conclusions, but I think people who are into this (actually Google and SafeSearch, really) indeed have done a generally good job of keeping this away from children.

I also want to bring up a post I reblogged a few months ago. It specifically concerns the blog “Ask Princess Molestia” and the “Down with Molestia” movement against it, but it makes a good point about the whole “children might find it” argument. In short, it’s the parents’ responsibility to make sure that children aren’t exposed to things they shouldn’t be seeing. The post states that content creators have given parents the tools to do so (“ratings and tags”). I think I’ve taken the appropriate measures on my end. My blog description advises that this blog is “highly NSFW.” The blog has been marked so on Tumblr since I created it, meaning that my posts are generally hidden from people on Tumblr unless they disable “Safe Mode”. (More information.)

I am concerned about young children being exposed to this sort of content. But the Internet has much more than this that children shouldn’t be seeing, including content based on other cartoon characters children enjoy. This, too, has been kept out of “public” view, and My Little Pony is no different. (Just for reference I searched Princess Peach, which as I’m writing this is at the top of this list, which is basically a “most gotten-off-to” characters list. I didn’t find anything inappropriate for children.)

((Well spoken! Also, they apparently don’t know how to use an apostrophe so no one cares about their opinion anyway.))

“No one cares about their opinion anyway.” Wow.

Okay, that might have been a joke, but I’ll be serious. I wouldn’t have written a (surprisingly) long response if I didn’t care.

EDIT: I’ve included a link to the original post for context.

Well, I’m not “literally” standing up because I was sitting when I wrote that post (and am sitting now as I answer this). But I am literally supporting them. (I’m one of them!)

Just because you focused on the point of children finding this content (which is justified, I suppose), I decided to do an experiment: I went to image search on Google, turned on SafeSearch, and just put in the names of the main six characters: Twilight Sparkle, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Applejack, and Fluttershy. The most sexually suggestive images I could find in the first few pages were Twilight Sparkle in bed and a back-nude humanized Fluttershy, which aren’t explicit. Down the list are some “wet-mane” and “bedroom-eye” ponies. You can try this for yourself to draw your own conclusions, but I think people who are into this (actually Google and SafeSearch, really) indeed have done a generally good job of keeping this away from children.

I also want to bring up a post I reblogged a few months ago. It specifically concerns the blog “Ask Princess Molestia” and the “Down with Molestia” movement against it, but it makes a good point about the whole “children might find it” argument. In short, it’s the parents’ responsibility to make sure that children aren’t exposed to things they shouldn’t be seeing. The post states that content creators have given parents the tools to do so (“ratings and tags”). I think I’ve taken the appropriate measures on my end. My blog description advises that this blog is “highly NSFW.” The blog has been marked so on Tumblr since I created it, meaning that my posts are generally hidden from people on Tumblr unless they disable “Safe Mode”. (More information.)

I am concerned about young children being exposed to this sort of content. But the Internet has much more than this that children shouldn’t be seeing, including content based on other cartoon characters children enjoy. This, too, has been kept out of “public” view, and My Little Pony is no different. (Just for reference I searched Princess Peach, which as I’m writing this is at the top of this list, which is basically a “most gotten-off-to” characters list. I didn’t find anything inappropriate for children.)