[Super-long thread. -HeartLinda.]
Hasbro have been clamping down on copyright violations recently and PP has been getting a lot of harassment from bronies who automatically assume that it’s her fault, on multiple websites. (hateful twitter messages, rude asks, emails, etc) As a result she’s decided to take a break from tumblr, which is entirely understandable.
I imagine she’ll come back to tumblr when things have died down, but I don’t know. She doesn’t owe anyone an explanation, either, so please don’t try to bombard her with messages demanding such. I just want her to do what’s best for her own health. It’s absolutely disgusting that a teenage girl has been bullied and harassed this much by a fandom for a childrens’ cartoon. Particularly a fandom that likes to pat itself on the back so much for being against bullying. Anyone who advocates this kind of behaviour or thinks “she deserves it” or “she brought it on herself” should be ashamed of themselves.
bronies care a lot about bullying.
First off: PP taking her blog down - fuck yes, serves the idiot right.
I wonder if Dragondicks knows about PP’s hypocrisy, and whether he would still whiteknight for her then?
She said that bronies shouldn’t be supporting a 9yr old boy who got bullied to the point of trying to commit suicide due to him being a brony - because apparently the boy didn’t deserve any help or support
Oh, and despite her railing against MLP:FiM porn, she’s drawn it herself - ponies in fetish gear no less.
and hell, the shit that her ex boyfriend has told the internet… holy shit…
What he describes is a pathological attenseeking liar who threaten to commit suicide if you made her upset - would claim to have been carrying around a dead baby inside of her for ten months (wtf!?) and even tried to manipulate and control the poor guy so he couldn’t hang out with his friends - only her, because if she wasn’t getting all the attention… she’d kill herself
oh, and honestly - don’t forget that we’re talking about a 14yr old here. This is not some well educated adult. We’re talking about a hormonal teenager who craves attention and threatens to kill herself if just about anything bad happens to her
Fuck - I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: If I ever see that piece of human garbage I’ll give an earful most forcefully and relish in her tears. And upload it all on youtube for good measure.
Of course, I wouldn’t tell her to kill herself. Never. I would tell her that she likely needs counceling, a lot of it, and that she needs to rethink her life quite a bit. Most of all I would tell her that she’s an idiot based on her behavior so far - and I would love every second of it
I was thinking to add in a long commentary of how hypocritical the Brony community is and how quick they are to discredit someone else simply because they share an opinion different than their own.
I was hoping to bring up the fact that Bronies will jump on any sort of information slandering someone they dislike regardless on how false and unreliable the source may be. This coupled with the fact that they often gloss over their OWN problems or any sort of shady dealings involve things they LIKE and APPROVE of.
I wanted to point out that the Brony community is so quick to throw thousands and thousands of dollars to stop bullying only to turn around and bully, harass, and threaten others.
But nothing I say will EVER do as wonderful and as perfect a job in pointing out these problems in the Brony community as much as Bronies do on a day to day basis so I bolded all you need to know.
Well done!
Well good sir, it sounds more to me like you’re just echoing Dragondicks.
What problems in the brony community? (I know there’s plenty drama, disagrements on headcanons, that sort… but I wouldn’t call that problems)
Still, you call the brony community hypocritical for discrediting others - seemingly merely for having ‘opinions’ other than their own. Have you even read some of the things that PP have posted?
Oh well, white-knights gonna whiteknight, no matter how moronic the people they defend are
“Oh well, white-knights gonna whiteknight, no matter how moronic the people they defend are”
If you think people calling out the bullshit in a community that bullied a young girl are simply “whiteknights” then it’s clear that there is no point in discussing anything with you. If you THINK that the only reason dragondicks and I could POSSIBLY care about this is because we’re both men who want to get with Pinkie then you are sorely mistaken on a multitude of levels.
First level being that this isn’t about “white-knighting” or any other asinine term you may have for this, this is about the hypocrisy in a community that pats itself on the back with one hand and shoves people with the other.
Second level, this isn’t about whether or not a person “deserves” it. This is about a bunch of grown ass men bullying someone (female OR male) to the point where they need to uproot their blog.
Third level, BOTH Dragondicks and I are females who are in a happy and healthy relationship with others who feel the same way we do.
Whatever crumbly little foundation your argument stood on has been shattered with the implication that we only care about others as a means to get into their pants.
You see no problems because you ARE the problem.
Uhm sweety - you keep referring to PinkiePony as “a young girl” as if she’s some poor innocent soul who’s done nothing wrong… again, I would suggest that you do a little googling
oh, and I’m sorry about the misconception about your gender (Couldn’t really tell from your tumblr pages, but ultimately it doesn’t make much of a difference) - also, my girlfriend think PinkiePony is an idiot as well, so she feels the same as me too :)
Oh, and do keep in mind that PinkiePony quite effectively did the exact same thing you’re accusing me of: The only reason bronies dislike her is because she bullied another tumblr user to the point that his blog was shut down as well by filling bogus reports to tumblr - simply because she didn’t like the content of that blog.
You see no problem with what she did because you are… blinded by SJW dogma
You’re so blinded by the idea that “oh no, PP is being victimized” that you don’t even care what she did to provoke such a response from others. Have you considered that if you kick the hornets nest that is 4chan that you might get stung?
Are you seriously suggesting that PinkiePony managed to “bully” what was once the most popular pony blog on Tumblr, with thousands and thousands of followers and unwavering support from the pillars of brony culture? Because if you are, you’re the one in desperate need of counselling, as you seem to have lost touch with reality.
Bullying comes from a place of power. In the instance of the rape culture blog that got taken down, it and its creator had all the power in this situation. Speaking out against it was a surefire way to get attacked by legions of bronies frothing with equal parts hate and poor excuses for why it totally wasn’t a rape blog. And yet people did anyway, because it was just that terrible, it had to be spoken out against.
Any group in power that rises up and slings insults and hatred in order to silence dissent is the bully, the ones they’re attacking the victims. Nobody in the world should have to suffer that, and if speaking out against the terrible actions of bronies and their spawning pool 4chan causes it, well, to take your analogy to its logical conclusion…
Fair enough - the term “bullying” to describe what PP did isn’t exactly accurate.
What she did would be more akin to trolling or simply abusing the tumblr report system - whatever term you want to use for that? Fraud? Bearing false witness?
The point was that she didn’t like the Molestia blog. Fine, she’s free to have an opinion.
However, she went beyond that: She abused the tumblr report system to frame the Molestia blog as something it wasn’t - to get it taken down.
And keep in mind: This was done, what, three times? Before the last one, then the Molestia tumblr was restored each time via the creator and the fans asking Tumblr nicely to review the account-closure and reconsider.
Each time they were restored, which means that someone at Tumblr looked at the blog, then compared it to the reports filed against it - and said “No, these reports clearly aren’t true - back up you go”
This should be telling you something. That PP and her ilk were able to do the trick repeatedly by various means just shows how easily tumblr’s automated report and takedown system can be tricked.
Now, I originally called it bullying because I figured it wasn’t that different. IMO what she did isn’t that unlike a bully in a sandbox stomping on someone’s sandcastle because said bully doesn’t like it - and even if you rebuild the sandcastle, then the bully just stomps it again because nope, still don’t like you doing that.
If someone destroys something you like, because they don’t like it - and keeps on doing so even after you remake it - all to make you stop doing it… shit, if that isn’t some kind of bullying I do… oh, oh I know
Its terrorism.
I mean, you wreck shit to make stop doing certain things. You want to send you girls to school in pakistan? Nope, here’s a bomb. You rebuild the school? Have another bomb.
You like that blog? Nope, here’s a trumped up shutdown. You got it back? Have another trumped up takedown.
I would like to thank you Alexander for making me think this through to this final conclusion.
ok I seriously wasn’t going to reblog any more discussion on this but this gross brony JUST COMPARED PROTESTING THE EXISTENCE OF MISOGYNISTIC, BIGOTED RAPE JOKES IN A FANDOM FOR A LITTLE GIRLS’ CARTOON TO ACTUAL TERRORISM.
HASBRO REMOVING GENUINELY OFFENSIVE, BIGOTED CONTENT THAT USED THEIR IP TO MAKE LIGHT OF SEXUAL ABUSE WAS AN ACT OF TERRORISM
HOLY SHIT
I love how these people that continue to do absolutely nothing to help anyone other than themselves somehow didn’t notice that her blog isn’t actually gone.
Also, isn’t it cute how Dragondicks goes full-capslock instead of actually contesting anything anyone says like a calm, rational human being?
Let’s face the facts here: The very operation of this “movement” that this “poor widdle girl” tried to start was built on a foundation of lies and hypocrisy. It was never about helping victims. If it was, you would think they would have done more than just sit around circle-jerking over a single fan base (a fan base, mind you, that has done more to help actual rape victims than all of these so-called “feminists” combined).
When legitimate statistics discrediting them are put before them, they refuse to read it, and resort to calling the poster “trash”.
When unbiased studies, conducted by women, that debunk the false statistics that they pass around as truth are given to them, they do the same.
Whenever even their own words in which they constantly contradict themselves are placed before them, they completely lose their minds. That one is the funniest, because it’s literally what they have said that is being shown to them. They become even more irate when you present them with Pinkiepony’s own blog posts in which she’s caught in her own hypocrisy. Truth is more painful than fiction.
Lastly, they love - love - to hide behind the “little girl” argument, as if Pinkiepony isn’t literally a half step from reaching adulthood. They support everything she says, and then turn around and claim that she can’t be held accountable for her words due to her age. I’m sure that, as soon as she does turn 18, they’ll suddenly start screeching about how “TURNING 18 DOESN’T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU AN ADULT!”. Meanwhile, they’ve doxxed and sent death threats to teenage boys, and also told someone they were going to “rape her in the ass with a knife” because that person disagreed with them on the internet. Frankly, I’m rather surprised that they have yet to launch an attack against Youtuber InternetAristocrat over his video about Pinkiepony (one which, mind you, has received nearly 20,000 views now, with over 2,000 likes, and an embarrassingly miniscule 31 dislikes. That kind of says something, doesn’t it? And this is from people who aren’t even in the pony fan base, and many of which who actually dislike it. So much for her followers and all their “support”.).
These people are the most self-centered, immature, and painfully egocentric people I have ever had the misfortune of coming across while traversing the World Wide Web. They place themselves on a moral pedestal, despite accomplishing nothing worthwhile whatsoever. They had the sheer audacity to question the charity done by others, while giving absolutely nothing of themselves. Meanwhile, this “little girl” that they so worship has very tactlessly tried to divert attention away from a little boy that tried to kill himself, and make his pain all about her. Then, she tried to insist that the fan base was only donating towards his treatment because “he’s a brony”. Funny, considering that the “Seeds of Kindness” charity (which has been held three times now) has helped quite a number of children in Uganda, and I’m pretty sure none of them have ever even seen the show. She tried to devalue the genuine bullying undergone by two other little boys, and again tried to bring attention back to herself. Every time anyone else suffers real life consequences, she tries to be the bigger victim, including making up numerous wildly implausible stories in order to emotionally manipulate others into feeding her ego with their sympathy.
Plain and simple, these people do not care who they hurt, as long as it boosts their own sense of self-importance. They do not care about anyone but themselves. These are not “feminists”. These are spoiled, entitled teenagers who have no idea what activism really means. Then, they go about it in such a disgustingly inappropriate manner that it is doing far more harm than good. To top it off, when their airheaded little martyr finally goes into hiding after shooting her mouth off at an animator who produced only family-friendly content, perhaps - perhaps - a lesson started coming into the clear:
You are not a “good person” just because you can go on your blog, and whine about a fan base who has been shown to not fit onto the image you’re so desperately trying to project onto it. You are not a “good person” simply by virtue of what you claim to stand for.
The genuine goodwill of a person is measured by what they actually give of themselves - what they actually accomplish. And this fan base, without any of them demanding to be individually recognized for it (something which must truly blow the minds of these attention-seeking “activists”) has given tens of thousands of dollars to various charities the world over, including a recent charity drive for RAINN that has so far doubled the intended goal. Regardless of the “ulterior motives” that these whiny little teenagers insist they may have for doing so, the fact remains that - even if they were right - they’re still actually helping others. The people receiving the benefits of these donations could care less why they’re receiving them. Meanwhile, Pinkiepony and her followers have the unmitigated gall to act pompous about the gigantic load of nothing that they have done for even a single human being.
If this is what you call “activism”, then frankly, the victims of the world are better off without your “help”.^^^THIS.
even tho i try to avoid reblogging social justice stuff i think this is kinda important i guess?
The Smackdown in this post is too strong to not reblog. Everything Tenaflyviper says in this post is quite true on many levels. I usually avoid posting these type of things, but this is important…
For convenience, the video by InternetAristocrat is here.