Tag: Discussion

She made several posts after responding to me:

• http://missvoltairine.tumblr.com/post/58575091606/what-the-fuuuuuuuuuck
• http://missvoltairine.tumblr.com/post/58575337754/rape-tw-csa-tw
• http://missvoltairine.tumblr.com/post/58575421735/pedophelia-tw This one’s interesting, actually. “THEY ARE CARTOON CHARACTERS” Yes, that’s true, but do you know what “Rule 34” is? Also, warriorsmurf said in response: “I DON’T GIVE A FUCK IF IT’S NOT THE DICTIONARY DEFINITION OF PEDOPHILIA. IT’S FUCKING CREEPY.” You know what, fine, it’s creepy to you. That doesn’t mean you have the right to stop others from enjoying it.
• http://missvoltairine.tumblr.com/post/58575528463/rape-tw-csa-tw
• http://missvoltairine.tumblr.com/post/58576374888/rape-tw

Most of it is ranting on how I talked about my clopping, which I thought was justified. (See my response.)

Oh, dear goodness, I definitely hope I don’t meet her in real life.

The response is here. (Note that she cut out some; read my initial response here.) I decided not to reblog it since apparently she doesn’t want a direct response. (I will still tag her blog name; I know that’s for “replies” or something like that, but I don’t know what effect it has.)

This is probably my last response to her. I figured this would be nothing but trouble, and I think this response might attract even more. Whatever.

After this paragraph everything is addressed to her.

I’m sorry you’re disturbed by my masturbatory habits, but I only brought them up since you called people like me “predatory adult men.” (I might just ask you the same question: Why did you go from my post to accusing me of getting off to rape fantasies?) Yes, the “mane 6” (judging by your use of that term, I assume you are somewhat familiar with “My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic”) are supposed to be relatable to little girls, but that doesn’t meant they are little girls. They are adults. They have jobs. I am open to evidence against that if you or anyone else wishes to present it. Also, I do not get off to rape fantasies involving them or any other character, from My Little Pony or otherwise. As I said, I don’t find “Ask Princess Molestia” arousing.

If you would act this way toward me in real life, I would want to stay away from you. Jeez.

notableclopblog:

heartlinda:

missvoltairine:

heartlinda:

pinkiepony:

I know I’ll lose followers, I know I’ll get hate mail, but I’m tired of my voice being silenced. I want to be heard. This is not a joke. Sexual abuse and molestation is not a joke. I’m a victim myself, and to see people taking it so lightly, is sickening. Rape is not a joke. Rape is not sexy. Stop glorifying these acts. I recently babysat a child who entered my room, and upon seeing my massive My Little Pony collection, she ran to my Friendship is Magic shelf and started naming them, and once she got to Celestia, she told me she rapes people. She simply googled images of Celestia, and that little girl now knows what rape is. That was the last straw. I haven’t told many of you, but I had a terrible rape experience and My Little Pony is my passion. This needs to end.

I want to make a difference. Im willing to fight. Down with Molestia! We need to take a stand. Who’s with me?

So this is the seminal post for “Down with Molestia.” (Or not; correct me if I’m wrong.)

Let me start off by saying this: I can see where you’re coming from with this. That story is quite shocking, but it shows more the inability of cloppers and others interested in more “mature” themes to keep their material discreet and marked. But as rape is a very serious issue, and seeing as you yourself are a victim of sexual abuse, I can see why you’re taking it in this direction.

I am sorry that you and your supporters are getting hate (not simple criticism) for this. However, I think your campaign is a bit extreme, and somewhat exaggerates the influence of APM. It is one blog, and I have to agree with hazama-itsuru (reblogged by you) that parents should be more careful when their children are online. I believe this is what John Joseco meant with #354, that supporting APM is not supporting or trivializing rape. (Some have interpreted this as rape apology, which I think is a misconstruation.) Should he have defended himself more maturely? Probably. Do I agree with him on this? Maybe, but I’m not too sure yet.

That’s all I have to say for now. I’ll probably follow up with this soon. I hope people can continue to discuss things civilly despite the controversial issues presented.

“let’s have a civil discussion about how i think predatory adult men using a TV program for young girls as a venue for their rape porn is totally fine, god why are all you rape victims such hysterical bitches incapable of taking a joke, who gave you the idea that young girls deserve for anything they like to be safe from grown men sexualizing it and making it about rape, it’s not like 1 in 3 women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime and the majority of those assaults will happen before the victims turn 18”

you are literally disgusting and I hope the skin burns off the roof of your mouth

Oh, dear goodness. I don’t see why a contentious issue (or even one with an “obvious” answer) can’t be discussed civilly. For example, I am highly inclined to call creationists idiots, but I refrain from doing so because that doesn’t prove that evolution is true, and might suggest that I don’t have evidence to back up my claim.

You seem to make a lot of inaccurate assumptions about my views.

1. “…predatory adult men…” I clop. Yes, that means I get off to erotic depictions of “My Little Pony.” That does not mean I am a pedophile. If you are familiar with “Friendship is Magic,” please note that the main six characters are adults. They have jobs. I stay away from depictions of underage characters.
2. “…how i think predatory adult men using a TV program for young girls as a venue for their rape porn is totally fine” I don’t clop to APM; I don’t find it arousing. I don’t think others find it arousing, either, but funny.
3. “god why are all you rape victims such hysterical bitches incapable of taking a joke” I never said that. I even conceded that I understood pinkiepony’s view. I did say that she and apparently you are exaggerating the size of APM’s impact.
4. “who gave you the idea that young girls deserve for anything they like to be safe from grown men sexualizing it and making it about rape” Again, I never said that, and I actually believe the exact opposite (though I’m not sure I made that clear). I do believe children should be protected from such material. I just think, as hazama-itsuru does, that parents should take more responsibility. (Please read the post from that blog that I linked. Here is another link for your convenience.)

You should read this (and my original post) thoroughly, and I hope you understand that the palate (roof of the mouth) is not covered in skin.

I’d give a lot more credence to people on the down with molestia side feeling victimized if perfectly calm and reasonable opinions that avoid condescension, like what Heartlinda wrote, didn’t get twisted around in their mind as, “god why are all you rape victims such hysterical bitches incapable of taking a joke”. There’s also this idea they’re obsessed with that this is rape victims versus rape apologists. Clear cut good vs evil and it enables them to be just, like, really really shitty. There have been enough people who were themselves victims coming forward and saying they don’t like DWM to show that it is in fact possible to care strongly about rape victims but feel differently. 

http://jitterbugjive.tumblr.com/post/58517731845/ive-been-sexually-abused-so-it-was-really-upsetting

http://lovelywaifu.tumblr.com/post/58471360292/some-real-talk-about-dwm-drama-from-a-real-victim

http://askstormyhero.tumblr.com/post/58524474183/some-words-from-someone-who-is-clear-in-the-head

http://dareabrit.tumblr.com/post/58516885011/i-support-the-big-sexy-drawn-by-me-via-mouse-d

Some of these people are sane and have reasonable interests in this but then some of them are just incapable of processing the idea people who disagree with them aren’t stupid or evil. I don’t really know where I wanted to go with this.

missvoltairine:

heartlinda:

pinkiepony:

I know I’ll lose followers, I know I’ll get hate mail, but I’m tired of my voice being silenced. I want to be heard. This is not a joke. Sexual abuse and molestation is not a joke. I’m a victim myself, and to see people taking it so lightly, is sickening. Rape is not a joke. Rape is not sexy. Stop glorifying these acts. I recently babysat a child who entered my room, and upon seeing my massive My Little Pony collection, she ran to my Friendship is Magic shelf and started naming them, and once she got to Celestia, she told me she rapes people. She simply googled images of Celestia, and that little girl now knows what rape is. That was the last straw. I haven’t told many of you, but I had a terrible rape experience and My Little Pony is my passion. This needs to end.

I want to make a difference. Im willing to fight. Down with Molestia! We need to take a stand. Who’s with me?

So this is the seminal post for “Down with Molestia.” (Or not; correct me if I’m wrong.)

Let me start off by saying this: I can see where you’re coming from with this. That story is quite shocking, but it shows more the inability of cloppers and others interested in more “mature” themes to keep their material discreet and marked. But as rape is a very serious issue, and seeing as you yourself are a victim of sexual abuse, I can see why you’re taking it in this direction.

I am sorry that you and your supporters are getting hate (not simple criticism) for this. However, I think your campaign is a bit extreme, and somewhat exaggerates the influence of APM. It is one blog, and I have to agree with hazama-itsuru (reblogged by you) that parents should be more careful when their children are online. I believe this is what John Joseco meant with #354, that supporting APM is not supporting or trivializing rape. (Some have interpreted this as rape apology, which I think is a misconstruation.) Should he have defended himself more maturely? Probably. Do I agree with him on this? Maybe, but I’m not too sure yet.

That’s all I have to say for now. I’ll probably follow up with this soon. I hope people can continue to discuss things civilly despite the controversial issues presented.

“let’s have a civil discussion about how i think predatory adult men using a TV program for young girls as a venue for their rape porn is totally fine, god why are all you rape victims such hysterical bitches incapable of taking a joke, who gave you the idea that young girls deserve for anything they like to be safe from grown men sexualizing it and making it about rape, it’s not like 1 in 3 women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime and the majority of those assaults will happen before the victims turn 18”

you are literally disgusting and I hope the skin burns off the roof of your mouth

Oh, dear goodness. I don’t see why a contentious issue (or even one with an “obvious” answer) can’t be discussed civilly. For example, I am highly inclined to call creationists idiots, but I refrain from doing so because that doesn’t prove that evolution is true, and might suggest that I don’t have evidence to back up my claim.

You seem to make a lot of inaccurate assumptions about my views.

1. “…predatory adult men…” I clop. Yes, that means I get off to erotic depictions of “My Little Pony.” That does not mean I am a pedophile. If you are familiar with “Friendship is Magic,” please note that the main six characters are adults. They have jobs. I stay away from depictions of underage characters.
2. “…how i think predatory adult men using a TV program for young girls as a venue for their rape porn is totally fine” I don’t clop to APM; I don’t find it arousing. I don’t think others find it arousing, either, but funny.
3. “god why are all you rape victims such hysterical bitches incapable of taking a joke” I never said that. I even conceded that I understood pinkiepony’s view. I did say that she and apparently you are exaggerating the size of APM’s impact.
4. “who gave you the idea that young girls deserve for anything they like to be safe from grown men sexualizing it and making it about rape” Again, I never said that, and I actually believe the exact opposite (though I’m not sure I made that clear). I do believe children should be protected from such material. I just think, as hazama-itsuru does, that parents should take more responsibility. (Please read the post from that blog that I linked. Here is another link for your convenience.)

You should read this (and my original post) thoroughly, and I hope you understand that the palate (roof of the mouth) is not covered in skin.

http://askconsentia.tumblr.com/

Out of the “Down with Molestia” controversy comes “Ask Princess Consentia”!

I think this is a great idea and, a much more appropriate response to “Ask Princess Molestia.” This presents a new premise instead of just hating.

Check it out! (I’m already following it.)

pinkiepony:

I know I’ll lose followers, I know I’ll get hate mail, but I’m tired of my voice being silenced. I want to be heard. This is not a joke. Sexual abuse and molestation is not a joke. I’m a victim myself, and to see people taking it so lightly, is sickening. Rape is not a joke. Rape is not sexy. Stop glorifying these acts. I recently babysat a child who entered my room, and upon seeing my massive My Little Pony collection, she ran to my Friendship is Magic shelf and started naming them, and once she got to Celestia, she told me she rapes people. She simply googled images of Celestia, and that little girl now knows what rape is. That was the last straw. I haven’t told many of you, but I had a terrible rape experience and My Little Pony is my passion. This needs to end.

I want to make a difference. Im willing to fight. Down with Molestia! We need to take a stand. Who’s with me?

So this is the seminal post for “Down with Molestia.” (Or not; correct me if I’m wrong.)

Let me start off by saying this: I can see where you’re coming from with this. That story is quite shocking, but it shows more the inability of cloppers and others interested in more “mature” themes to keep their material discreet and marked. But as rape is a very serious issue, and seeing as you yourself are a victim of sexual abuse, I can see why you’re taking it in this direction.

I am sorry that you and your supporters are getting hate (not simple criticism) for this. However, I think your campaign is a bit extreme, and somewhat exaggerates the influence of APM. It is one blog, and I have to agree with hazama-itsuru (reblogged by you) that parents should be more careful when their children are online. I believe this is what John Joseco meant with #354, that supporting APM is not supporting or trivializing rape. (Some have interpreted this as rape apology, which I think is a misconstruation.) Should he have defended himself more maturely? Probably. Do I agree with him on this? Maybe, but I’m not too sure yet.

That’s all I have to say for now. I’ll probably follow up with this soon. I hope people can continue to discuss things civilly despite the controversial issues presented.

It is 2013 August 17 22:30 UTC approximately. I first heard about this controversy literally minutes before. (Question: Is this controversy actually new? Or did it just explode with #354? That post seems to be a response to existing controversy. EDIT: This controversy was started by a post by pinkiepony on 11 August.) I’m familar with Ask Princess Molestia, but I don’t follow it or visit it regularly.

Why am I even doing this, then? Answer: Not only do I want to repost (and comment) on things that “attract my attention” (to put it lightly) (and APM isn’t very cloppable, anyway), I also want to talk about sexuality. The DM campaign brings up very serious issues such as rape and rape apology.

I’m not going to explain what’s going on here, since I myself don’t know fully. I will give my initial views on this, though.

• Does APM trivialize rape? Maybe. But I seriously doubt that’s the intention. But honestly, I have to say that I have no idea why John Joseco created this concept.
• Is APM rape-apologetic? Of course not (unless I’m missing something). APM does not promulgate the idea that rape is the victim’s fault. (Or does it? I haven’t read too much of the blog.)

I’m researching for myself, but I’m hoping that some people who are more familiar can help answer: What is this all about?

My brain is full of fuck.

Answer using Tumblr’s native answer system or Disqus (by accessing the page for this post).

Your input does not have to be neutral! I’ll take answers from people who have a strong opinion on this issue.

luchocas:

hirosashii:

Rarity.  Holy shit.

Me and http://stop-talking-bullshit.tumblr.com/ on Facebook =3

Dem pickup limes. XD

A while back I posted a confession of someone who regularly came on his pony doll, remarking that it was “mildly disturbing.”

But hey, I clop, and enjoy quite a few other things (posted on this blog) that could be considered “disturbing,” so who am I to judge? Well, I do have standards, and there’s a good reason I won’t venture into the realm of using my pony figures for sexual purposes. (I do have one, by the way.)

I think it blurs the line between fantasy and reality. A picture or a thought is enough (for me, at least), and if someone uses a real-life object for this (except a sex toy, since that’s just for physical stimulation), things will get worse. This also applies to things like blow-up dolls.

Of course, I’m not an expert in this, so don’t take my word for it. This is just my personal view. Let me know through Tumblr’s answer system or Disqus (by going to this post): What do you think?