Tag: Discussion
We need to start a club or something.
Yay~
We’re by far in the minority, but it’s nice to know others feel the same.
But seriously, I agree that anatomy should be "reasonably plausible." (It's even in my rules. XD)
sexual assault (or assault and abuse of any kind!) is no laughing matter! yet it greatly saddens me that many people in a fandom for a colourful feminist horse cartoon — one that teaches little kids to be nice to and respect each other — consider it so! don’t be complacent about a “vocal minority.” make fandom safe for everyone.
Oh no, it’s happening again…! I knew I wouldn’t stay out for long.
This doesn’t qualify as “something major,” but rather as something new to respond to.
I don’t think I’ve “harassed” anyone more than looking through #Down with Molestia and responding to people’s posts. I even wrote a civil response to Pinkiepony. However, I’ve seen quite a few people who might fit the “harasser” description.
Next, I don’t believe all the flak (harassment or not) is just for objecting to rape jokes. It seems to be for overreacting and making false accusations (such as this that happened to me (after I tried to respond directly to Pinkiepony, of all circumstances). (You don’t want to see her response to that post, but if you want you can find it here.)
“Making fandom safe for everyone” is really not realistic, as there is much more “unsafe” content in the brony fandom. This includes clop (with which I am very familiar, as anyone who spends a minute on my blog can tell), as well as other “mature” content (“Cupcakes” and HotDiggedyDemon’s “PONY.MOV” series come to mind). (EDIT: I originally spelled it “HotDiggetyDemon”, which has been corrected.)
Right now I’m not saying if Ask Princess Molestia or Down with Molestia is right or wrong, because I’ve already done that, and I don’t want to repeat myself here (for a number of reasons). The main takeaway from my response is that this is an oversimplification of the issues surrounding “Down with Molestia.”
(It’s been seven months to the day since my first post. I actually made this on 20 November 2013, for the record.)
Music. Just a quick remix (i.e., adding a house beat) of the music for “Trixie or Treat!” by ButtercupSaiyan and Mittsies.
Downloads:
This work by Jack’s Crush is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
This is essentially my way of finally revealing who I am after a discussion about acknowledging my identity as a brony.
This blog is basically my porn dump because I wouldn’t want to disturb other people with clop and really just pornography in general. But I’ve never led anyone to my “SFW” pony content, because of my concerns about the image of the brony fandom.
But it’s time I did. I attributed this song to “Jack’s Crush” because I’m also known as Jack “Fox” Grayson. I make video commentaries and music.
Jack’s Crush will essentially be my music name for stuff that isn’t all that “safe for work,” like this song. I’d like to keep the music identities down, and Jack’s Crush is like a “half identity” as opposed to HeartLinda.
I still believe in a separation between SFW and NSFW content, so here are some guidelines:
- Don’t expect the type of content to change here or there.
- I can sometimes be downright prudish when it comes to the SFW. Don’t post or expect much suggestive stuff there.
- I post “random” content from time to time, but don’t expect much SFW stuff here.
- Don’t expect me to talk a lot about the other identity, here or there.
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Don’t call me Jack here, and don’t call me Heart there.
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Exception:
I don’t have a Tumblr blog for Jack yet, so if Tumblr is seriously the only social network you’re using, you can ask Jack something. Please address me as Jack, or else I will enjoy roleplaying as Heart trying to answer your question.EDIT: Jack has a blog now: jackgraysonfox.tumblr.com, so please direct “SFW” inquiries there.
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Exception:
- Se vi vidas la kontojn de Jack, vi eble vidas, ke mi parolas Esperanton. Ne provu paroli kun mi (kiel Heart) en Esperanto,
krom se vi demandas al Jack ĉe tiu-ĉi Tumblr-a blogo. (REDAKTO: Jack nun havas sian propran Tumblr-a blogon; bonvolu paroli kun mi en Esperanto tie-for.)
Oh, hello! For some reason I wasn’t notified of your question. Sorry for answering so late. I hope you are following my blog so you can see my apology.
Regarding your comments: I noticed that it did say “in first season,” but I wasn’t sure how the story progressed from then. So thank you for the information.
Let it be known, now and forever; I will not under any reason post anymore stupid questions/comments like this again.
To tell someone they have to be part of a “club” to say a certain word is retard and slightly insane. I’ll tell ya what, I’ll stop “Objectifying” trans women when people like you stop being Fascist.
Little neo-nazi(s) like you are doing more harm to the trans community then good. What is futanari if not a huge parade of trans artwork, a fan base? Sure, is not something you see hanging in a gallery, but to many people (Including transsexual and transgendered people) it is something they can connect with. Something they can put themselves into. Futanari artwork is the stepping stones of acceptance, do you know how many male followers this blog has? Each and everyone of them would accept a trans woman into their life with open arms, why? Because they like futanari, because they think traps are cute, because they have seen it done before. I think you need to get over yourself and deal with it, “Some people are Futa, get over it!”To add on to this, futanari is an art form, and one that - by definition - is a form of satire and parody. It does not surprise me (nor should it surprise anyone) that satire will tend to offend, to unnerve, to isolate and, yes, to objectify.
This is what this sub-strata of parody art forms is supposed to do. “Furry,” for instance, is a parody of bestiality (imagine a photo-realistic artistic rendering of furry sex and you’ll be hard pressed to find where the line is any more). It is supposed to take the unfamiliar, the sacred (and what is more sacred in our lives than gender identity?) and force us to re-evaluate our assumptions of what we are, what we think, and how we react to others around us who may not be exactly like us.
The fact that futanari art also arouses, titillates, or otherwise creates the desire to sexualize another person is a fantastic bonus; embrace the discomfort of getting outside of the comfort zone of what is plain vanilla (or habitual) in our every day sex lives.
If Futa creates a redefinition of gender, I say, “Good!” Challenge the norm - even the norm of those who are trying to challenge the ‘norm’ by being futa-like in real life. No one holds a monopoly of what the ‘norm’ should be changed to.
That is, after all, the wonder and power of art in the first place.
-PF
Okay, on terminology: “Futanari” is the best term for this sort of thing because (in short) “transgender” doesn’t include individuals who are/are said to be born with such traits, and “androgynous” is too broad.
I personally do not seek to objectify these individuals (well, any more than pornography does by its own nature). I actually hate certain images I’ve seen that seem stereotype futanari individuals as sex-obsessed.
I also like the analyses already provided.
Even before clop, one of my favorite areas of Rule 34 was Winx Club. Yep. I was thinking about posting some here, but after expounding my philosophy on porn I knew I needed to check the ages of the characters. Most are around 16 or 17…
Most people associate age of consent (to sexual activity) with age of majority (being a legal adult). However, while the age of majority is 18 in most parts of the world, the age of consent is often younger, 16 or even younger than that. Even the majority of U.S. states set the age of consent at 16. More info on Wikipedia (Obligatory disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. Please consult a professional for legal matters.)
Given this I might just start posting Winx Club. :D
However, my personal philosophy is that porn should not be enjoyed if the sex acts are wrong/illegal in real life. So I will not get off to fictional depictions of rape, sex with underaged individuals (this includes lolicon, shotacon, and foalcon), etc. But that’s just me. Though I am quite opposed to this sort of content, I am fine with others enjoying it.That’s very much a respectable philosophy, and I commend you for it. My personal philosophy on porn is that it never should depict something negative. Rape porn is something I’m vehemently against—and any kind of porn that depicts non-consensual abuse is sick, I believe.
As long as the content demonstrates all characters enjoying the sex, and no one is hurt in the process (both in the porn and IRL) then I don’t have major issues with it.
I have some other fetishes that are grey areas to me, but that’s the big one.
I can’t even answer that because you jump to the conclusion that foalcon = pedophilia.
Yeah, this isn’t something I feel like talking about.
Wait, sex with ponies and furries? That’s okay in real life? Yes, I believe so, actually. These individuals have human-like intelligence, so I believe they can be treated as consenting adults.
Truth^^
Oh boy.
(Just a note to Ambris: If you don’t feel like talking about it, that’s fine. But I’ll be talking about it, so you don’t need to respond if you don’t feel like it.)
I’d like to point out that, while I personally think foalcon/lolicon/shotacon is “slightly pedophilic,” I won’t consider everyone who’s into that sort of stuff a pedophile.
With that being said, though, I have to agree with Anonymous. Based on this post it seems the chart includes the Cutie Mark Crusaders (which I would’ve guessed), who are underage. So actually, even if foalcon isn’t the same as pedophilia, this would still have “given a bunch of pedophiles fresh fap material.”
Anonymous also correctly points out that Tumblr does not allow such content, which is why it must be moved to such sites as, indeed, Inkbunny and Derpibooru. (By the way, I don’t think those sites are “shady” as Anonymous put it, but rather “less restrictive.”)
I’ll discuss my views on foalcon/lolicon/shotacon more broadly in another post. Right now I’m only addressing Anonymous’s points here.
I actually do feel like talking about it now. Your point is fair. And I appreciate your tolerance. The bit that I like to see the most is
I can’t even answer that because you jump to the conclusion that foalcon = pedophilia.
Yeah, this isn’t something I feel like talking about.
“I’d like to point out that, while I personally think foalcon/lolicon/shotacon is “slightly pedophilic,” I won’t consider everyone who’s into that sort of stuff a pedophile.”
And that’s exactly right. Those who are into those fetishes ARE NOT PEDOPHILES. I understand that there definitely is an overlap between pedophiles and foalcon fans (foalconists?), but no more of an overlap than compared to porn fans and serial rapists.
As such, I take no responsibility for pedophiles that may fap to my stuff anymore than I take responsibility to rapists who also look at my porn.
Yes, I draw foalcon. But never will I never condone pedophilia in any sense. In my book pedophilia is the rape or sexual exploitation of real life children. Even with “consenting” children, it counts as rape because children do not understand the consequences of sex. And the adult should know better than to take advantage of the child. An adult who does take advantage of such a situation is the fucking scum of the earth, and probably deserves to be eradicated, or at least their genitals lopped off.
On that note, to bring this into a context that my followers can relate to: the act of calling a lolicon/shotacon/foalcon fan a pedophile is like calling a clopper a zoophile; They are not the same thing. It’s also like calling a porn fan a serial rapist.
Just because someone faps to something, does not mean they will go out and force sex upon the nearest real world equivalent. I may draw some odd fetishes, but damn it, I have some moral standards that I would also expect anyone intending to be decent human being should have to.
I think it comes down to this, with which I both agree and disagree in different ways:
“Just because someone faps to something, does not mean they will go out and force sex upon the nearest real world equivalent.”
I’m not a psychologist, but I suppose that’s true. Even with realistic depictions of fictional children, I don’t think that’s outright pedophilia, just as clop and yiff are not outright zoophilia.
(Okay, in my discussion related to Down with Molestia I agreed with people who pointed out that rape jokes are correlated with actual rape, but I note that, even so, rape jokes are not to blame.)
However, my personal philosophy is that porn should not be enjoyed if the sex acts are wrong/illegal in real life. So I will not get off to fictional depictions of rape, sex with underaged individuals (this includes lolicon, shotacon, and foalcon), etc. But that’s just me. Though I am quite opposed to this sort of content, I am fine with others enjoying it.
Wait, sex with ponies and furries? That’s okay in real life? Yes, I believe so, actually. These individuals have human-like intelligence, so I believe they can be treated as consenting adults.
TL;DR: I think this sort of stuff is “wrong” on a personal level, but I think it’s okay for others to enjoy it.